In our year-end roundtable discussion series, av club It takes a look at the stories that had the biggest impact on pop culture in 2022.
We got it. You are readers av club, are tired of hearing about Olivia Wilde, Harry Styles, Florence Bowe, and all the rest. Believe it or not, we are writers av club, They are also tired of discussing it. Hopefully, when we put 2022 to bed, we can stop talking about this in 2023, at least until Ryan Murphy inevitably turns the complete fiasco into the most-watched Netflix series of all time in 2025. Here are four av club The staff discusses it all do not worry my love The fiasco — and yes, the actual movie — and why we’ve talked about it so much this year.
Matt Shimkowitz: There’s no shortage of lackluster Hollywood movies sold on behind-the-scenes drama. do not worry my love Really in the center of a perfect storm. To think, this movie’s press cycle began when Olivia Wilde got custody papers onstage in May, and then moved on to touching on several hot topics in pop culture. There was a peak Harry Stiles and Florence Pugh fame. the breakdown of Wilde’s relationship with Hollywood nice guy Jason Sudeikis; and the ongoing saga of Shia LaBeouf, who forced his way into the fray late in the game. And all of that was likely before Styles “spit” on Chris Pine. Remember that? There was a lot of intrigue and politicization, and really, a power vacuum in the narrative. Things were getting out of control and no one was taking control. The movie benefited because all that drama was more thrill than hell do not worry my loveOne of the worst movies of the year.
Drew Gillis: I also agree that the behind the scenes drama was more interesting than the movie. There were a lot of strong and divisive characters. Personally, I can’t stand Harry Styles’ public persona, I found Olivia Wilde very honest about the feminist narrative she felt wasn’t ultimately reflected in the film, and much worse, the fact that Shia LaBeouf was Accused of abuse for years. Any of these people (usually passively) grab attention anytime it’s mentioned, but getting them all into the same project was a recipe for this sort of thing.
When I saw the first trailer for the movie, I was honestly excited. I liked Boxmart Enough, Florence Bew has adored everything I’ve seen her in. I was hoping BTS’ anarchy would somehow pull the best out of this team, but the opposite happened — in hindsight, it was really the only thing could has happened.
Hattie Lindt: If we’re talking about “cultural images that stuck in my mind from this year,” DWD’s cast on the red carpet in Venice is right up there. You’re right, Matt, to the point that the film is caught at the nexus of several easily digestible narratives — the most obvious to me is the laid-out romance plot (and the Internet detectives’ pathological desire to uncover infidelity via timelines and contextual clues). I really wanted to stand up for Wilde in this movie – I loved that BoxmartNo one deserves to be put in a position like her with custody papers. But all I could think about watching it in theaters, especially during its disastrous second half, was: “While the personal drama and tabloid cycle got in the way, DWD’s entire budget was spent filming those cars driving through the desert.”
And Drew, you’re right about the bumbling feminism of it all—what kind of “revolutionary” message Wilde intended to interpret came across almost comically. The Harry Styles-eating-pussy part has to be the most overrated scene in this year’s movie, if we’re measuring based on the gap between what Wilde promises time and time again and what it really is.
Gabriel Sanchez: I think Wild Road Is that true Leaning into the (non-existent) merits of the movie as things start to burn only works against it.
the lady: They were all vague and arbitrary signs of misogyny and patriarchy in a disastrous twist that made things even more infuriating. But hey, Kate Berlant and Nick Kroll brought the heat. This movie should have been a comedy. At least then I can relate to Harry’s other look.
GS: Once the narrative about the film became, “The esteemed actress Florence Pugh had to take over because Wilde is too busy with her relationship with the film’s protagonist, who happens to be a huge musical star,” it became not just about behind-the-scenes gossip, but a matter of her professionalism. And to boot, her defense of being like, “Well, male directors do that all the time!” You didn’t do her any favors. And Florence puffs from it all! The drama rose out loud when Pugh retracted press interviews and refused to publicly promote the film.
the lady: One can only handle the title “Miss Flo” so many times.
GS: Pugh was at the top of her game, a fact that was only reinforced when he was DWD Reviews praising its performance and a ball Everything else.
HL: One thing I can say for sure DWD: Despite the bleakness of the final product, it was one of my favorite movie theater experiences in 2022. I watched the movie amidst a boisterous, sold-out crowd who laughed together in a way I hadn’t known since before the pandemic—the group gasped at revealing “Harry The other is invaluable. If this is more about the look of the movie than its gripping plot…so what! Wilde isn’t exactly Tom Cruise-ing, but from where I stand, she definitely had a hand in keeping movie theaters afloat this year.
Directorate General: The Harry-Styles-eat-pussy scene is actually an interesting microcosm of the whole ordeal for me because I thought the scene in the movie worked really well. We see Beau’s character sneak away to dinner and set the table, only for Style’s character to come home from work, take everything off the table, and eat it right then and there. The scene is well directed – it compares Pugh to a piece of meat served to her husband, which is the condition of her character in Victory. But, for whatever reason, Wilde ran with being an indicator of female pleasure. It was all so weird once I actually saw the movie.
HL: That’s right, Drew. It’s as if Wilde had let the moment work, so that instead of leading the audience to read it as pro- or anti-female fun, she could have come so close to achieving the kind of discourse she seemed to have hoped for. the movie.
the lady: Don’t you think a few of those hideous Busby Berkeley homages would have helped the scene? I don’t even think the movie deals with female versus male pleasure. She’s interested in superficial-level aesthetics, going beyond Wilde’s reputation as a feminist to give the film any meaning.
GS: It was using “feminism” and “denouncing patriarchy” to defend itself and the film that really bothered me. Yes, DWD has a lean message about patriarchal domination, but dropping the word feminism in a way to build yourself up and your movie simply doesn’t work anymore, especially when there’s nothing out there to prove it.
This isn’t to say “feminist boo,” but painting yourself as a feminist avant-garde when you’re making something like DWD is just… access. Especially when the Stepford Wives Right there! Not that it’s anywhere close to an incredible movie, but…
Directorate General: Pugh’s character is basically into sexual bondage, so making it about fun, at all, was weird. I felt this discussion had more to do with the open secret/open column element of Wilde’s relationship with Styles than the content of the film. And you’re right, Gabriel – that conversation wasn’t (or shouldn’t have been) so much about petting Wilde and more about the alleged lack of professionalism on set and Pugh having to get up for it.
the lady: Can we spoil the twist? [Editor’s note: We’re about the spoil the twist.] I’m not one to get hung up on things like that, but there is a point in the movie where I feel like nothing can satisfy all the random, undefined things that happen in the movie. It didn’t help landing on “It Was All a Dream”. But even the reality Wilde paints is fanciful and ambiguous. Pugh playing the ER doctor? Harry, the beloved podcaster who kidnapped and imprisoned her? Nobody is looking for her? Is this happening to women across the country? Chris Pine hosts this podcast? I almost respect Wilde’s work in terms of carnival barking.
GS: As rich and somewhat layered as all this mess was, there was still a time when I wanted to grab my computer screen and shout, “Enough already!”
the lady: “Enough already!” rave gabriel sanchez, av club
GS: Now feels like a good time to say I never got to see the movie because by the time it actually came out, I was so exhausted and battered and broken by the news cycle around it.
the lady: Didn’t miss much.
Directorate General: I had planned to see him in the theater and then got there and saw Bros instead. I saw it when it hit HBO Max, for the record!
HL: Avoiding the movie based on the news cycle seems fair — I have a feeling you’re not the only one, Gabrielle!
Directorate General: And Matt, you’re right that this twist wasn’t necessary because the core world was groundless. Florence Pugh was like a 26-year-old surgeon? Either her character was too old, or there’s a new conversation about nepotism to be fought in children.
HL: Like a lot of the rickshaw-loving residents of Victory, I think the best way to pass this movie on first viewing is to just get along, and not ask too many questions about where you’re going and why (there are chances of that). You will stumble into a plot hole). One question from the subtraction fiasco to which I expect cold hard answers for a day, however, is actually one question Matt drove: Did Harry Styles spit on Chris Pine?
Directorate General: Oh Hattie, how I wish Harry had actually spit on Chris, but in the end, I guess the answer is no. I don’t think Harry Styles has ever done anything bold with his life.
GS: This man has never done such a thing.
the lady: Whatever happened, Chris Pine’s reaction was something of a sweetheart, especially when you watch the full video. The best part of DWD Did Chris Pine make a real movie star in place of the forgotten (and better) Chris.
Directorate General: And we have it.
[This conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity.]
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