“Andor”: Tony Gilroy in Cassian’s season 1 finale; The second season is full of gangster intrigues and outliers

Warning: The following interview has spoilers Andor‘s Season 1 finale “Rix Road” on Disney+

star Wars Creator George Lucas once wrote about “taxing trade routes” in an editorial introduction Star Wars – Episode I: The Phantom Menace, And if the Disney + star Wars The series has given die-hard fans anything but a subtle binary look at how these universe politics came to be.

While The MandalorianAnd the Obi-Wan Kenobi And the Boba Fett book They’re poisoned by callbacks to old characters and all things Lucas and even star Wars Animator Dave Filoni’s fantasies, Gilroy focused on smaller conversations – biblical details if you will, of how the rise of bureaucratic imperial power and how disparate factional rebellion come together – (hint, it helps to have a rich person in your corner who’s trying to animate Money and Opposition Funding, read: Genevieve O’Reilly’s Rebel Co-Founder, Mon Mothma).

One of those amazing details revealed in the finale: Those big steel wheels that Cassian and the prisoners of Narkyna 5 were assembling a few episodes ago were parts for the Death Star’s firing cannon. Duh. It’s that kind of Easter egg Andor Flourished, versus, shall we say, the deep universe of Filoni cartoon shows.

(LR): Corv (Noof Oussellam), Lieutenant Keysax (Nick Moss), Superintendent Dedra Meero (Denise Gough) and Captain Vanis Tigo (Wilf Scolding)

Season 1 continues the first year in the life of rebellious Cassian Andor. He returns to Ferix for the funeral of his adoptive mother Maarifa (Fiona Shaw), but he can’t quite be out in the open. The Imperials sniff something is about to collapse, and it does, as the droid B2Emo projects a hologram of Marva to the crowd, Obi-Wan-style encouraging them to fight the Force (“Fight the Empire!”). At this point, there’s an explosion worse than a drunken Mardi Gras with pipe bombs exploding. Let the star wars begin. Andor escapes through the tunnels of the furnaces, and Imperial Security Bureau supervisor Deidra Miro (Denise Gough) is trampled by demonstrators, only to be rescued by her twin flame, anti-Andor, Empire wannabe Cyril Karn (Kyle Soller). It was only a few episodes ago, she was playing hard to get. Now it seems more romantic than anything else instinct anatomy

All things end at Luthen Rael’s (Stellan Skarsgård) Fondor, where he encounters Cassian.

Andor says, “I came to kill you.” Luthen replies, “You don’t make it easy.”

“I will now,” Andor said resignedly. “Kill me…or take me with you.”

Luton smiles, knowing Andor is part of the rebel cause.

Here is our interview with Andor Creator Tony Gilroy, who was taking a break from filming a second season in England:

Maarva (Fiona Shaw) in a scene from Lucasfilm’s ANDOR, exclusively on Disney+. © 2022 Lucasfilm Ltd. All Rights Reserved. &TM. All rights reserved.

Limit: Was there something in history that was inspired by the first season finale? Especially with everything that is going on in Ukraine.

Tony Gilroy: It’s so sad how readily available all the things that seemed sad at the same time throughout history are, and that they keep repeating themselves.

There are things along the way, and I don’t want to go through and quote chapter and poetry, but that’s the Russian Revolution. This is the mountain. This is an interesting thing that happened in the Haitian Revolution. This is the African National Congress. Oh, this is the Earth Gun building, Palestine. This is the Continental Congress. It all goes all the way… I mean, you can stick a needle in the past, I don’t know what recorded history is, 3,000 years, legitimate recording, I mean, slavery, subjugation, colonization, bad behavior, treason, heroism, I mean, it’s a series connected.

Limit: A kick off from Rebel co-founder Mon Mothma – it felt like a nod to Nancy Pelosi. It’s that top layer that you know is motivated to make a difference and right wrongs.

GilroyHer job description: Senator, old politician, strong player, doesn’t get everything she wants, doesn’t get everything he wants. I certainly wasn’t thinking of the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives when I was writing the scripts.

Luthen Rhyl (Stellan Skarsgård) in Lucasfilm’s ANDOR

Limit: The Abyss where Cassian puts his life on the line and faces off against Rael’s idol – did you always plan for that?

GilroyI said we’re taking 12 episodes, over the course of a year, we’re going to take this entire time stretch, we’re going to take someone who’s completely disillusioned and completely self-centered and really having the worst day of their life, and someone who just turns into a cockroach, and we’re going to turn that person in one year, and we’re going to make the first U-turn For being the man in Rogue OneAnd we’ll get him involved.

And so, yeah, the last moment of this is the blood bleed. It took us this long to do that. It is what it is, the Road to Damascus, or the 12 Stations of the Cross, or whatever context you want to put it in. He’s been through everything to become: to give blood at the end of the show and say, “That’s it, I’m in.” His commitment to the rebellion, to fighting the Empire, and to devoting his life to it, we won’t question that now. From now on, we have a whole bunch of new issues to deal with. But that last line was on the table before many other things could be worked on.

Limit: Determining the next season, how many episodes per year of Cassian’s life?

Gilroy: We’ll cover the next 12 episodes, and we’ll cover the next four years. So, every three-episode block we shoot, and that just so happens to be our organizing principle for production.

So, when we come back for the second half, we’ll be a year later. A whole year will pass. All sorts of things are going to happen, and we’re going to pick up the show; Sometimes we’ll do a week, we’ll do three days, we’ll do four days, whatever, and then we’ll spend a year in between.

The last one will be the last, I don’t know what it is, three, four days before the start Rogue Onehence our last scene was always known, which would lead him to the first scene of Rogue One. So, we’re going to treat time differently, but it’s going to be blocks of three. This will be our principle.

Limit: Can you tease season two?

Gilroy: We will deal with it by the time we get it Rogue OneYou have the Rebel Alliance, which is a whole bunch of different factions and people that have come to Yavin and coalesced into what would become an organized rebellion. Well, we have four years to examine how hard it is to piece together a revolution, how hard it is to become a leader, how hard it is to be a victim.

But what happens to the original gangsters? What happens to outliers? What happens to the people who were… Every revolution devours and glorifies the people, and not always the people who did the important thing. How do you elevate something that basically doesn’t thrive in sunlight? how do you do that? And those issues and all the chaos that comes from them will be very important to us going forward.

Duncan Bowe, who plays Milchie, will return. We’re obviously playing there with that, because he’s going to be involved Rogue One.

Limit: It seems that the imperialists are making Cassian more popular than he already is. They seem to give him a larger-than-life reputation. do you agree?

Gilroy: one does not even know who he really is. They really don’t know how bad he is. They do not know. I mean, they think he might have been into Aldhani, but the reason Denise Gough’s Dedra Meero is trying to hurt him is – it’s a great hunter-and-hunt relationship. It’s desperate and she’s right to chase him. She thinks like him enough that she is the first person to realize that Aldhani is not a robbery, it is an advertisement. And you’ll be chasing after him for a long time, you know, Kasyan is the link. This is the only viable link she can find. If you can find it, you might find Luthen. Stellan’s Luthen doesn’t know who Cassian is.

Limit: That finale with the construction of the Death Star, was that always in the cards?

Gilroy: Yeah, when we got out of jail and then we started saying, “What do we do?” Then we built the thing. It’s like, Oh my God. Well, let’s do it. How ridiculous and how powerful and how circular and synchronicitis.

And then, Mohin Liu and TJ Falls, from the Department of Visual Arts, and they were amazing and they were Rogue OneThey were like, “Oh, let’s play with this.” And, you know, six months later, I got into a visual master deal and it’s like, oh, we have a special gift that we’re launching today and it’s like, the initial version of that, it was pretty cool. They did all of that and it helped us hone it, but it also worked for them.

Questions and answers have been edited for length and clarity.


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